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Post by Fletch on Nov 9, 2014 19:04:10 GMT -5
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Post by wardster on Nov 9, 2014 20:08:20 GMT -5
Lookin' cool! I'm glad you're posting all sorts of pictures of all these really fun 'toon kits. Some of the super-rare kits you've posted images of, I (and probably many others) haven't ever seen, at all; or (as in the case of the kits above) some of us have seen in photos, but never saw in person.
Seein' as how you've clearly had access to many, many cool old 'toon kits, here's a dumb question for you. Besides the supercharger / belt / scoop parts, as designed / molded for use on the "Super Fuzz" kit, were there many other kits which included sort of "bent" and intentionally distorted blowers?
I know a lot of kits had "unbent / mostly-undistorted" blowers on them -- (sometimes intentionally out of scale with the rest of the kit, to emphasize the cartoon-ness of the engines in those kits) -- but I am thinking ahead to a project which may involve an intentionally-'tooned supercharger; and I am sorta looking for "inspiration" pieces, as it were. Box art; kit pieces; whatever ... as long as it "inspires" and looks cool.
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Post by Fletch on Nov 9, 2014 20:29:34 GMT -5
I looked through what I had around here - the one on the Super Fuzz is only very slightly tilted (not bent) and the same goes for the Tom Daniel Roarin' Rail Snappers kit. Can't seem to find any bent blowers but I know what you mean. Maybe a diecast somewhere? How about the 33 Rodney from J. Flinstone - it is a resin kit OOP. Should not be too hard to pie cut one. I will keep my eye out when digging through all my junk. |
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Post by wardster on Nov 10, 2014 19:38:06 GMT -5
I looked through what I had around here - the one on the Super Fuzz is only very slightly tilted (not bent) and the same goes for the Tom Daniel Roarin' Rail Snappers kit. Can't seem to find any bent blowers but I know what you mean. Maybe a diecast somewhere? How about the 33 Rodney from J. Flinstone - it is a resin kit OOP. Should not be too hard to pie cut one. I will keep my eye out when digging through all my junk. Just to be clear: I wasn't thinking so much of finding a scaled-down part from a kit (either stock or modified) and then using that part, directly, on a scaled-down model of some sort. I was thinking more along the lines of making a fake, "obviously cartoon'ed" supercharger totally from scratch, to go on a real 1:1 vehicle. (Sort of a Zingers idea ... but not really, since the rest of the vehicle would not be altered in proportions, major details, etc., to go with the obviously tongue-in-cheek engine add-on bits.) But that's all down the road ... for now, I was just hoping to gather "references" of use in the "inspiration" stages of things. So, even box art or random images that someone created, but no one built in kit form, would work as inspiration. |
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Post by Starryeyes on Nov 10, 2014 22:10:15 GMT -5
My Speedshift kit has a Supercharger but there isn't much detail and it has a SLIGHT "bend" . .I would recommend sculpting a supercharger from (baking) clay.. bake it then make a mold and cast it .. you would have a truly on off piece ...
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Post by Fletch on Nov 11, 2014 16:43:59 GMT -5
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Post by ira on Nov 11, 2014 17:18:52 GMT -5
Super Fuzz!My Favorite Cartoon Monster Kit... 
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Post by wardster on Nov 13, 2014 12:38:25 GMT -5
Fletch: I love that book! I had to buy two of them. The first one, a buddy of mine from out of town saw during a visit. He liked it so much that it quickly became obvious it was gonna go home with him; or he'd never forgive me. So I let him have that first copy, and then I bought myself another one. I knew how he felt, because before I owned one, I'd checked out one from the local library like six times or something. Awesome book, all around!
Ira: Yeah, the Super Fuzz kit looks pretty cool. Depressingly enough, I've never seen one in person -- but it's way up there on my list of favorites, too; just from seeing various box art pics / occasional build-ups. I think they even show those ones in the book about all of the Monogram model kits that were once made. I think that book's author had said that Monogram was shooting for having made the best kits of that type, in terms of overall quality, when they made that series ... but they'd begun towards the tail end of that "fad" ... hence there only being a few of those kits.
Dumb question: has the Super Fuzz kit ever been re-released? (Or the others?) Or were they all a "once only" sorta thing?
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Post by wardster on Nov 13, 2014 14:17:48 GMT -5
My Speedshift kit has a Supercharger but there isn't much detail and it has a SLIGHT "bend" . .I would recommend sculpting a supercharger from (baking) clay.. bake it then make a mold and cast it .. you would have a truly on off piece ... I may end up doing something like that, for model kit use; but (when the weather warms back up) I was thinking ahead to maybe doing up an over-sized, Zinger-like, tongue-in-cheek, 'tooned "engine" to fit into the back of my real-life pickup truck. Or rather, the top half of one: sticking up through a custom bed-cover. Which isn't as crazy-difficult as that probably sounds. Hardware stores sell big sheets of expanded polystyrene "foundation" foam, which would work fine as a base or "main shape". Plaster and vermiculite would be good for additional shaping or detailing, over that foam base. That part of things I've done, many times. The pain (or part I'm not as familiar with) would be "hardening" the resulting shape enough that it could take a bit of weather / "standard abuse". I'm not super familiar with fiberglass work, but I have done it a few times on smaller projects. Epoxy resins would have to be used for the final fiberglass coating: as the (cheaper and more common) polyester resin used for fiberglass work "eats" that foam, pretty badly. Without some kind of hardening, I'd be afraid it would be too delicate for outdoor use. Since I gotta get more familiar with fiberglass use, anyway, before I can do that larger project, I suppose I should (literally) scale my wish list down to model kits size, for the time being. Not that that's a bad thing. (Kits are cool!) While I can see that using something like bake-able "Super Sculpey" would work fine for model kit use, I'm more familiar with two-part, self-hardening, epoxy products like "Magic Sculpt" or "Milliput" and/or a mixture of those two products. (I like a proportion of 7/8ths and 1/8th, respectively.) I know that some folks prefer "Aves Apoxy putty" but I prefer the other stuff. Just brainstorming, here, but another option for creating an intentionally-distorted model kit blower would be to make a rubber mold out of some existing kit piece; mix and pour some standard casting resin; pull the casting out of the mold "too early" on purpose-- and while the resin is still "green" (setting up, and not yet fully hardened) push or pull or otherwise intentionally distort the new piece. Once it hardens fully, you'd have a custom-distorted piece, from an undistorted "master". |
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Post by Jim Richards on Nov 13, 2014 14:28:39 GMT -5
The Super Fuzz was re released in 2000, I just checked Ebay, there are a couple available, (I didn't realize they were going for that much) I'm glad I got mine in 2000.
But since they have been re released, keep an eye out you may come across one for a reasonable amount. I think when it came out I paid about $16, they weren't that cheap then either.
Jim
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Post by Fletch on Nov 13, 2014 20:44:04 GMT -5
And when they re-released the Super Fuzz they gave it all new box art so it is easy to tell the original from the newer release.
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Post by budtugly on Nov 13, 2014 21:05:57 GMT -5
Super Fuzz!My Favorite Cartoon Monster Kit... Never would have guessed  |
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Post by Jim Richards on Nov 14, 2014 1:53:20 GMT -5
And when they re-released the Super Fuzz they gave it all new box art so it is easy to tell the original from the newer release. I went back to Ebay and looked, Wow, they really did change the box art a lot. But by the price difference, I'm sure you wouldn't buy the "wrong" one, haha. Thanks for the heads up Fletch. I never had an original one, did the kit, it's self change? Your Friend Jim |
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Post by Fletch on Nov 14, 2014 19:17:18 GMT -5
Hey Jim the old kit looks just like the newer kit as far as I can tell looking at them side by side.
And while we are on the subject of the Mouse kits...The original SPEED SHIFT was actually a RAT. You can go back to the early 60's Car Craft and Rod & Custom magazines and look through the monster t-shirt ads. You will see the evolution of lots of characters. The first photo is Speed Shift years before the kit came out. The second pic is a few years later and he has morpAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment Deletedhed to skates instead of slicks. The model is my version of the original Speed Shift. |
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Post by Fletch on Nov 14, 2014 19:29:58 GMT -5
If anyone likes Mouse's art - his new book will be put on March 17, 2015. It is supposed to have some of his early hot rod monster stuff in it. Called California Dreams.
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